2006:2006 Plenary Notes

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Oct. 12th @ Empress Crystal Hall, Victoria

Opening

Professor Stephen Downie gave the opening remarks:

  • We will present certificates for participants. Feel free to grab yours if you are leaving.
  • Appreciation to IMIRSEL team members.

Overview

  • This year MIREX is highly successful. We got everything done on time!
  • Matlab is widely used (universal retrieval language!)
  • All the evaluation result data files are available on the wiki.

Tasks

  • We had sub-tasks as tasks are getting matured.
  • New tasks:
    • Audio cover song: 13 different songs, each of which has 11 different versions
    • Score following: have ground work done for future years
    • QBSH: 48 ground truth melodies. Different versions of queries on the 48 melodies. About 2000 noise songs were selected from Essen dataset. Both audio input and MIDI input are supported.
  • Please think about new tasks next year.
  • New evaluations:
    • Evalutron 6000 got real-world human judgment.
    • Audio onset detection supported multiple parameters.
    • Friedman test: It is valuable experience from TREC conferences, the annual contests in Text Retrieval area.

Onset Detection

By tuning the parameters, we can get an optimal setting which is a tradeoff between precision and recall. We need new dataset to see if the tuned parameters are good for onseen data. Question: comparison to last year results? Answer: this year is better because there are multiple parameter tunings.

Evalutron 6000

Two judgments:

  • category judgment: Not similar; Similar; Very similar
  • continurous score: from 0 to 10, allowing one decimal after the decimal point.
  • the system: using CMS open source software
  • still have data that we haven't fully processed (other user/evaluator behaviors)
  • new evaluation on other facets? e.g. mood
  • suggestions?
  • appreciate evaluators' volunteer work. Your work makes life beautiful!

Questions: consistency across users? Answer: the data appear to be quite consistency. More analysis can be done on the data which are publicly assessable.

  • automatic evaluation using available metadata (vs human judgment)

Friedman tests

  • a variation of chi-square test
  • Matlab script code is on the wiki
  • Compare different algorithms
  • this test is conservative

Future MIREX plans

Please see the powerpoint slides.

Acknowledgement

Mellon Foundation


Discussion

  • Encourage everyone to participate.
  • Need data!
  • Metadata: handy goundtruth
  • reuse data: for at least two or three years
  • submission: robustness, platform, scalability, paralellization

Kris: call for organizers!

Alexandra Uitdenbogerd: "similarity" judgment is difficult. It might be easier to make judgment on genres for example.

audience1: How long was need for evaluate one pair? Stephen: we have the data, but have not digged into it.

Bergstra: can you make the contests year around? Stephen: some of them, yes.

audience1: please be aware of a work on labelling images? "ESP game": people playing games while labeling image. they went throught the IRB in CMU

audience2: reaching some conclusions. To get some sense on what makes them different. Stephen: IPM journal will have a special issue on MIREX, I'd like to organize it by contests. There have been a lot of discussions going on on the mailing lists of Audio sim and symbolic melody similarity.

audience3: Make the data available for the participants after evaluation? It would be a big reward for participants. It is an incentive for participation. Stephen: audio is hard to move Mert: we can distribute features audience3: we would like to pay .50$ for each song. Stephen: I like this motivation model too, but the copyright is really tricky. we will work towards that. This brings to funding issues. Kris: "unknow" is a bonous to avoid overfitting.

audience4: let old algorithms run in new years, so as to see their variantions. Stephen: I/O changes across years. We will try to make I/O stable. Alexandra Uitdenbogerd: some participants may not want their algrithms to run against new datasets. But stable I/O is really nice. Better to make source code accessible for individuals who wants to share their code.

Onset detection

audience4: having individual results for each entrance? because metrics and statistic tests can change, only raw results last. Andy: the raw results are avaible, but the groundtruth is Martin's data.

Audio similarity

A link to Elias' paper on this task. Paul: organizers should attend the Spring meeting and finalize evaluation, better not to change evaluation at last minutes. New modifications can take effect in next year. Elias: this is very good, consistency is high Stephen: precise definition of task would help -- what we are going to compare!. A bit worry about variance. I hope we are not getting malicious people. Elias: "audio similarity" means too many things, so anyone can give a better name? Andy: we got improved compared to last year, this is exciting.

QBSH

Roger: it is easy to get data, all you need to do is singing on a microphone. I hope every participate contribute some data (both ground truth and queries) Rainer: this year we have both audio and midi, but the midi was generated by pv5, no segementation. So might hurt the results using midi input.

Symbolic Melody Similarity

Alexandra: the query set is quite small. Stephen: we haven't done Friedman test for this contest yet. Rainer: more data means more evaluation burden, really depends how much we'd like to do. there is a link on the wiki to my processing results.

Score Following

Organizer (Diemo Schwarz): I am glad we have a framework now. Next year, we will have more participants. Now audio to symbolic, we have high precision after quite a lot hand work. Offline analysis can be another topic. next year: augment database, and change the measures.

Audio Cover Song

Stephen: I will lead this contest next year. Get more songs and build larger database

  • Folks please post your poster (pdf) onto the wiki.

New tasks

1. Andy: pitch detection 2. Stephen: similarity and metadata like mood, usage, etc. 3. Eric Nicoles: encourage you to keep on the symbolic contests. 4. collaborative filtering: the textual data can be shared by participants and encourage participation. Norman in last.fm has much data. Audience1: We might have the problem on making our data public. Kris: connect collaborative filering data to audio

Stephen: start to think about this NOW! Thank everyone!!! Digest MIREX 2006 results; Think about MIREX 2007!