<?xml version="1.0"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xml:lang="en">
	<id>https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=Talk%3AAudio_Genre</id>
	<title>Talk:Audio Genre - Revision history</title>
	<link rel="self" type="application/atom+xml" href="https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?action=history&amp;feed=atom&amp;title=Talk%3AAudio_Genre"/>
	<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;action=history"/>
	<updated>2026-04-07T08:49:00Z</updated>
	<subtitle>Revision history for this page on the wiki</subtitle>
	<generator>MediaWiki 1.31.1</generator>
	<entry>
		<id>https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=857&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>139.222.3.147: /* Database size */</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=857&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2005-02-25T13:09:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Database size&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table class=&quot;diff diff-contentalign-left&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:09, 25 February 2005&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l7&quot; &gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 7:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I also want to see algorithms evaluated on hard problems. E.g. which algorithms work well on 100 examples, 1000 examples and 10,000 examples (scalability). This applies to classes as well, stick to 1000 examples but increase number of classes from 10 to 100 (essentially what will happen with artist id task). Some algorithms will fail or take a lot longer to run under these conditions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I also want to see algorithms evaluated on hard problems. E.g. which algorithms work well on 100 examples, 1000 examples and 10,000 examples (scalability). This applies to classes as well, stick to 1000 examples but increase number of classes from 10 to 100 (essentially what will happen with artist id task). Some algorithms will fail or take a lot longer to run under these conditions.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Kriss&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Kris&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>139.222.3.147</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=856&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>139.222.3.147: Database size</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=856&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2005-02-25T13:08:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Database size&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table class=&quot;diff diff-contentalign-left&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:08, 25 February 2005&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I like the idea of hierarchical genre categorization, and multiple labels. We should not be content with good performance on simple questions. I would like to see how &amp;quot;bad&amp;quot; the systems will be in harder problems. However, to evaluate harder problems, a good set of data is the key. Besides copyright issues, we need people (probably music librarians) to annotate and organize a reliable corpus.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I like the idea of hierarchical genre categorization, and multiple labels. We should not be content with good performance on simple questions. I would like to see how &amp;quot;bad&amp;quot; the systems will be in harder problems. However, to evaluate harder problems, a good set of data is the key. Besides copyright issues, we need people (probably music librarians) to annotate and organize a reliable corpus.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;== Database size ==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I also want to see algorithms evaluated on hard problems. E.g. which algorithms work well on 100 examples, 1000 examples and 10,000 examples (scalability). This applies to classes as well, stick to 1000 examples but increase number of classes from 10 to 100 (essentially what will happen with artist id task). Some algorithms will fail or take a lot longer to run under these conditions.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Kriss&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>139.222.3.147</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=855&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Xiaohu at 22:15, 20 February 2005</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=855&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2005-02-20T22:15:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;table class=&quot;diff diff-contentalign-left&quot; data-mw=&quot;interface&quot;&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;col class=&quot;diff-content&quot; /&gt;
				&lt;tr class=&quot;diff-title&quot; lang=&quot;en&quot;&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 22:15, 20 February 2005&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I like the idea &lt;/del&gt;of &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;hierarchical genre categorization&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;and multiple labels. We should not be content with good performance &lt;/del&gt;on &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;simple questions (since there &lt;/del&gt;are quite &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;good systems on single &lt;/del&gt;genre classification &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;problem.) I would like to see how &amp;quot;bad&amp;quot; the systems &lt;/del&gt;will &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;be &lt;/del&gt;in &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;harder &lt;/del&gt;problems. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Genre problems are &lt;/ins&gt;of &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;great importance to music retrieval&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;because queries &lt;/ins&gt;on &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;genre &lt;/ins&gt;are quite &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;popular. Progresses in &lt;/ins&gt;genre classification will &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;enhance approaches &lt;/ins&gt;in &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;real retrieval &lt;/ins&gt;problems.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Genre problems are &lt;/del&gt;of &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;great importance to music retrieval&lt;/del&gt;, &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;because queries &lt;/del&gt;on &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;genre are quite popular&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Progresses in genre classification &lt;/del&gt;will &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;enhance approaches &lt;/del&gt;in &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;real retrieval &lt;/del&gt;problems.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I like the idea &lt;/ins&gt;of &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;hierarchical genre categorization&lt;/ins&gt;, &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;and multiple labels. We should not be content with good performance &lt;/ins&gt;on &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;simple questions&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I would like to see how &amp;quot;bad&amp;quot; the systems &lt;/ins&gt;will &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;be &lt;/ins&gt;in &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;harder &lt;/ins&gt;problems&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. However, to evaluate harder problems, a good set of data is the key. Besides copyright issues, we need people (probably music librarians) to annotate and organize a reliable corpus&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Xiaohu</name></author>
		
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=854&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>130.126.146.79 at 21:25, 20 February 2005</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://music-ir.org/mirex/w/index.php?title=Talk:Audio_Genre&amp;diff=854&amp;oldid=prev"/>
		<updated>2005-02-20T21:25:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I like the idea of hierarchical genre categorization, and multiple labels. We should not be content with good performance on simple questions (since there are quite good systems on single genre classification problem.) I would like to see how &amp;quot;bad&amp;quot; the systems will be in harder problems. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Genre problems are of great importance to music retrieval, because queries on genre are quite popular. Progresses in genre classification will enhance approaches in real retrieval problems.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>130.126.146.79</name></author>
		
	</entry>
</feed>